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@JosephMenn So what happens to people who had it enabled? Do they lose their backups? Or will their devices silently start exfiltrating all their private data to Apple in the clear?

@JosephMenn Aside: Folks in UK *and US* with Apple devices should probably consider changing the location they tell Apple they're in to somewhere safer.

This is unlikely to be easy if you have Apple Pay or paid apps/subscriptions, but if not, it should be fairly easy, I think..?

@reay @JosephMenn It shouldn't be needed (but see sister reply next to yours). For example a US iPhone can be taken to China and connected to wifi there and doesn't immediately start blocking your access to apps banned there. Rather there's a jurisdiction associated with your device and Apple account, that can be changed (but that might not be enough).

@dalias @JosephMenn I’m in Canada so not sure this’ll particularly affect me (I also use a third party backup service, so would be less affected than some either way), but I was curious for anyone affected if that would be a usable workaround.

@reay @JosephMenn Are there third party backup services for iPhone that are actually e2ee and complete? I was under the impression there was no way for an app to get the permissions to do that and that the only way to do safe backup of iPhone was locally with iTunes.

@dalias @JosephMenn Ah, I get you. I was going to say that Sync.com, the service I use, does say they’re e2ee, but that’s for selected file backups, not the full phone backup like through Apple itself.