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If you're surprised Tesla takes and keeps recordings from their cars after seeing the news about the Cybertruck in Vegas, you shouldn't be. This is not something new. Tesla has been taking and storing media for many years, claiming it's used to train their AI capabilities. You can't opt out either.

And Tesla employees do access it, make fun of you, make memes, and share the content internally, without any legitimate reason to access the content.

arstechnica.com/tech-policy/20

While this is about Tesla, this is a growing problem across this and other industries.

Ars Technica · Tesla workers shared images from car cameras, including “scenes of intimacy”By Jon Brodkin

@bedast It goes back a lot further. Rule #1 as far back as the age of mainframes is that the sysadmins can see *everything* you do. That's pretty much their job. It's just that, for the most part, we didn't care that much. Your porn was, frankly, nothing we hadn't seen dozens of times before and as long as you weren't interfering with normal operations we had more important things to do with our time.

BedastGPT

@tknarr As a long time sysadmin, this is absolutely true. It’s always baffled me when people use work resources for personal use and got in trouble for it, then complained their companies were spying on them.

It’s just that I really don’t think people understand as all of these technologies grow and expand, surveillance will run deeper and deeper. And it’s all intentional. Especially in the age of sucking up as much data and content for training broken AI.

@bedast I attribute a lot of it to work having expanded so far that we _have_ to do a lot of personal stuff while at work because there isn't time otherwise. The line between work and private life starts to blur, and that's the inevitable result of that.

@bedast @tknarr The topic wasn't work resources but personal ones. Sysadmins looking at that in any way are engaging in grossly unethical and probably illegal acts.

@dalias @bedast The servers involved belong to Tesla and are part of the sysadmins' responsibilities. This is something too many people fail to grok.

And in too many cases the sysadmins aren't just allowed to look, they're legally required to look and to act on what they find.

@tknarr @bedast In that case, whoever created the system that put data there that they shouldn't be able to see is at fault.

@dalias @bedast Tesla believes they ought to be able to see it. Putting it there isn't illegal, and business school courses on ethics will explain in detail why it's not just not unethical but in fact ethically required.

Just how toxic the mindset business schools instill is yet another of those things far too many people fail to grok. This is why so many sysadmins are in recovery.

@tknarr @dalias @bedast “putting it there isn’t illegal” - so next someone should crash a Tesla in the EU and get Elon to help out?