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It is extremely frustrating to me that people use the insult 'carrot top' to describe people with red hair because carrot tops are green thank you for listening and another thing red hair is rarely actually red also red onions are clearly purple who is naming all this stuff.....
@TheBreadmonkey Taps my foot at you in colorblind.
@TheBreadmonkey I know this isn't contributing much to the conversation... but thanks for reminding me about this track with this toot lol. https://darkerthanwax.bandcamp.com/track/red-onion-white-garlic
Also, four eyes, as an insult for people with glasses.
These cunts clearly don't understand the very basics of physiology.
Might as well call car drivers six legs.
The hair thing comes from the time when English didn't have a word for orange. That word came with the fruit.
Orange things were previously just called red - see also Robin Redbreast, when a robin's breast is clearly also orange.
The onions, I can't help with.
Genuinely interesting!
@suearcher @TheBreadmonkey
"Rufus" predates "orange"; though Old English had "geoluread" (yellow-red).
@HighlandLawyer @suearcher @TheBreadmonkey In passing, Beatrice has a line in Shakespeare's Much Ado About Nothing that makes oranges sound yellow (yellow being associated with jealousy):
The count is neither sad, nor sick, nor merry, nor well; but civil count, civil as an orange, and something of that jealous complexion.
@timrichards @suearcher @TheBreadmonkey
So in Original Pronunciation "civil" and "Seville" were, if not homophones, at least close enough for punning purposes. As well as the j in jealous having an i or y sound.
@HighlandLawyer @suearcher @TheBreadmonkey I don't think jealous actually sounded like yellow, but the colour was associated with it for some reason.
@timrichards @suearcher @TheBreadmonkey
"Yel-las" spoken in various accents could be either "jealous" or "yellows".
@timrichards @HighlandLawyer @suearcher
I thought it was green with envy?
@TheBreadmonkey @HighlandLawyer @suearcher that too, dating back to the Greeks, but apparently yellow had a similar association because of a connection toJudas: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/it-s-yellow-not-green-that-s-the-colour-of-jealousy/
@TheBreadmonkey <Randy Feltface voice> blueberries are FUCKING PURPLE
@TheBreadmonkey RED CABBAGE
@TheBreadmonkey Decrease pH and red onions become more red. Increase pH and then they become more blue. Increase pH a lot and you get green and yellow. It's not the onion that's the problem - it's that you haven't pickled enough red onions.
@TheBreadmonkey Dean Stockwell.
@TheBreadmonkey The word "orange" is a relatively recent one, not showing up in English until about 1500. This means there are a few old English words that use "red" or "gold" for things that are orange (redheads, goldfish...)
@TheBreadmonkey the red onions/white onions thing dates back to the Russian Civil War, where white onions were eaten by the Tsarists and red onions were eaten by the Bolsheviks.
This sounds plausible and yet I don't believe you...
@TheBreadmonkey Also, violets are blue? 
I thought "carrot top" meant a very physically unstable (inebriated?) person, because every time I've tried to spin a carrot on its tip, it just falls over straight away.
I'd never heard it used like this
Neither have I - it just seemed like a ridiculous, yet semantically plausible, interpretation. 
@TheBreadmonkey Noted, and how beige is that party your account is on?
@TheBreadmonkey In Australia, a guy with red hair would traditionally be nicknamed "Blue" or "Bluey" and redheads can be collectively called "rangas".
@TheBreadmonkey Your guess is as good as mine. 
@anne_twain @TheBreadmonkey
Don't know about Bluey, but rangas is short for orangutan.
@TheBreadmonkey ikr? And you can’t just sub a “red” onion into any old recipe because it will make your sauces and stews turn gray
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These are old names, from back when color naming was in its infancy and there weren't many color names to go round.
@TheBreadmonkey at least the dude who named oranges had it together.
@Doctor_J_
Fun fact¹: Oranges were originally named 'rafruit' (sun-colored==Ra), but the Egyptians sued for copyright infringement, so it was renamed to 'orange'
¹ very much not a fact
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@Doctor_J_ @TheBreadmonkey
Must have been a person of color
Probably the same people who thought white horses should be called 'grey'.
@TheBreadmonkey Green eyes though… *melts gently inside*
@TheBreadmonkey the makers of black boxes.
@TheBreadmonkey a green haired person would be a carrot top top