When you're unkind to children, they don't stop loving you, they stop loving themselves.
@RickiTarr the annoying thing about being a kid is you take everything your parents say extremely seriously
like as an adult I'm like "wow it turns out my parents were both extremely flawed people"
@waitworry @RickiTarr Yup. For the longest time, I was adamant that my father would kill me for my transgressions because the bangla words for hit and dead are practically the same
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"Mother is God in the eyes of a child."
@RickiTarr So true. And so unfortunate.
Ouch! That got me right in the parent feels. So true though.
I make it a point to tell the kid I love them, every day.
@pseudonym You're wonderful
@RickiTarr And rarely restart
@davew That's the real hard work
@RickiTarr So true. And it can lodge itself as a primal thing. You may be self aware and understand intellectually it's bullshit but still there it is. Whenever I see adults yelling at their kids or otherwise making them feel like they're a burden I'm right back there with them.
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oh...uhh...think I'm going to go sit in a dark room for a bit.
@Dr_Ubertrout Oh no, I'm sorry hugs
@RickiTarr this explains a lot about my brain
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I’ve found a somewhat repeat pattern play out. If you are kind to yourself and have respect there’s a good chance that will be reflected how you show up and interact and treat others.
@RickiTarr Been there, done that, hid the tee shirt from m y mom
@RickiTarr the problem is how to tuning parent against their kid.
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Then double it down with the bullying in school so the child goes from loud/confident & outgoing to a quiet recluse.
@RickiTarr T. H. I. S.
@RickiTarr That is true indeed.
@RickiTarr I would argue both are true, not just one or the other. Apologies for just popping up in your comments.
@RickiTarr sad but powerful and true message. I wish that people were more considerate sometimes. Childhood defines most of your future life.
@RickiTarr@beige.party We also stop loving the people that were unkind to us. Just a little bit. But time has the power to heal a lot of wounds.
@RickiTarr Excuse me while I go relive every time I yelled at my boys.
@JamesMDonohoe I'm sorry! I think it's more cumulative than that, no one can be perfect, being a good parent is the hardest thing you can do.
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Shared the exchange with my boys, older replied with something sentimental 'amazing dad and grandfather' stuff, younger immediately made fun of older boy and said 'we were going to be fucked up anyway but it's the good kind of fucked up' and older laughs. So they are kinda broken but not completely.
@RickiTarr I know I was not a great dad in some past situations. Mostly because I didn't know better, had some immaturity issues myself and misconceptions about how 'parenting' works. I talked to my kids, who are now teenagers, about that and apologized. The youngest literally started to explain the principle of 'unconditional love' to me to reassure me that everything is okay between us. I was blown away and very grateful.
@RickiTarr Yep. For decades. Then later, they hate you.
@RickiTarr there is no sadder truth
@RickiTarr Just told this to my shy partner who grew up with parents who thought negative reinforcement was the way to go. She nodded.
@RickiTarr - that`s really true, sad to say, and the worst thing is it often takes so many years to hear it, decades in my case
@RickiTarr same for adults
But that’s the point, isn’t it? People with low self-worth are easy to push around.
Oh, trust me on this; mine stopped loving me.
@RickiTarr Oh trust me, the kids will also stop loving their parents in the long run.
@RickiTarr why must you hurt me so
@RickiTarr That is the most profound, and true thing that I have read!! Thank you for posting this
@RickiTarr Do that to the wrong child, and they might stop, although the second part might still be true.
@elverkonge They'll definitely grow up that way
I’m still trying to recover from the advice of forgiving your parents, for being human, presumably.
I’ll forgive my Mom, who’s been gone for 36 years, for anything. Everything. She always and only made the decision she thought was best with the information she had at the time.
My stepfather spent my entire life, until he disowned me at 55, mentally and emotionally abusing me with the occasional physical abuse thrown in for good measure.
He fucking laughed when his dog, who he had TAUGHT to bite people, launched itself from behind the couch and bit my 18 month old who was standing on it, leaning against the back.
Fuck forgiving parents.
Not if they are even slightly toxic.
Let them reap what they’ve sewn.
@Pagan_Activist Ugh some people are nasty and will always be, those people need cut out, period. They will never add anything beneficial to anyone's life.
@RickiTarr I’d like to add that “benign neglect” has a similar, if not as dramatic effect. My basic physical needs were always met, but affection and nurturing were absent. And yeah, your last 4 words. Seek out peace and healing , people.
@RickiTarr The trauma we put on children, often without realizing it I’m still dealing with issues from childhood and being able to love myself is one. I mean it when I say I don’t know if I ever will.
I so wish I had gotten here sooner. I love my kids and I shower them with physical and emotional affection. I'm also completely ridiculous and, I am sure, very confusing to them. Also, being enormous and bearded with an all-caps voice is a strong headwind--they both seem to prefer mom by a wide margin.
There are so many things that feel like they don't map cleanly onto kindness. I put my son in time out when he slaps me because I want to protect him from being the kind of person who thinks hitting is OK [he's also strong, and him punching me in the mouth is no fun for me], but that also requires manhandling him into his room, and he super duper hates it. I generally don't lie to my kids, but I play games with my son where I'm all "I'M GONNA EAT A BIG BOWL OF POOP!", and he says "dad! That's not poop! It's chocolate ice cream!" and I ask him if he's sure and tell him that I'll check by eating a great, big scoop, and he thinks it's really gross and funny. There's an implied lie in there. Kids have to do lots of things that they don't want to do, and I struggle so much with that. I feel neglectful and substandard a lot of the time, and I just hope they feel genuinely loved even if by a flawed person.
@HG @RickiTarr I think showering them with affection and worrying about whether you're doing it right are the top two signs that you're doing great!
Preferring mom when they're little seems to be extremely common and should not be taken as a sign that you're doing something wrong. In our house we have three teens and they all strongly preferred mom (me!) when they were little, but now they if anything lean towards preferring dad
Thanks, Maria. It feels so difficult and alienating some days. I regret how much time I need to spend working, and how much time my son spends watching TV or playing games on my phone. I hope they're having a good childhood, it just feels like there's never enough time for the things I want them to have.
Also, this feels like the first time I've ever interacted with you even though you've liked almost every Lrrr post -- I almost thought yours was a bot account! Glad to know there's a real and insightful human being behind it all.
@HG @mariashanle Shitty parents don't generally spend a lot of time thinking about whether they are shitty.
@HG @RickiTarr I have been quietly lurking and favoriting for a long time, finally just decided to come out of my shell to interact!
And yeah, sometimes I think that the very core of parenting is feeling like you don't know if you're doing it right. All we can do is our best, though!
@mariashanle @HG Marie Speaks!
We're glad to hear from you!
@RickiTarr Wow! So rare these times to read a meme that feels both novel and on the spot. Heard most of those already. Cool.