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Do the eligible voters in the US who didn't vote for Kamala Harris realize how much they fucked up?

Alice McFlurry :bc:

Please note that I didn't say "who voted for Trump" and specifically said "who didn't vote for Kamala Harris" because I am referring to a much larger group of people who all fucked up.

@Alice

The psy-ops was powerful, but they should have seen through it. Hopefully it is a teachable screw up.

@mastodonmigration @Alice I don’t think so. American whites are too busy having a self induced panic attack and blaming everything but their own historical voting actions rather than rallying and getting to work.

@Alice

In such cases it is generally the candidates who fucked up. This is no exception. (Mitigating circumstances as she picked up the pieces from an imploded campaign, but she made her own mistakes.)

When your strategy fails on that many million people, your strategy has failed.

Campaigning would be much easier if the candidates could choose the electorate. To some extent, that works for the Republicans, but it's not an ideal strategy.

@glc Wild how you just dismiss the agency of millions there. Candidates are responsible for their choices, sure. But so are voters! That being the essence of democracy and all.
@Alice

@glc @Alice yeah, no. Anyone with any level of responsibility knows to vote for whoever is not psycho.

@Permacultureandpolitics @Alice

Oh in that case I guess there's no problem.

I disagree.

I would think after seeing the results you might question your assumptions.

@Alice Back when Trump was talking about removing all the Palestinians in Gaza, I read an article where a reporter went around talking to Palestinian activitsts who had supported Trump. One said she voted for Trump because he said he supported a two-state solution. She was surprised by him saying he wanted to evict all Palestinians in Gaza, but she was sure he didn't mean it, and he would still work toward a two-state solution.

I hope this clarifies that my answer is "no."

@obot50549535@left-tusk.com @Alice@beige.party I believe whoever believed Trump when he said he'd support a two-state solution was delusional to say the least.

@Alice My vote would have made exactly no difference! I live in the Seattle area

@annaymone It doesn't matter. At least represent and vote for the only valid choice that had the potential to beat Trump. Maybe next time. If we get a next time.

@annaymone Your vote mattered. Many are claiming Trump's winning the popular vote as proof of his mandate for radical change. You helped make that happen. @Alice

@annaymone @Alice Well, so do I, and I vote because I see it as not just a right, but a privilege and duty.

@annaymone @Alice and how do you know that for sure? You can only be responsible and know about your own actions. Please don’t assume a majority will do anything in the future.

@Alice I did note that as I did the deliberate choice of not using "registered"

:100a: Points

@Alice I know at least one person who, "I dunno, I can't tell them apart," who isn't showing any signs of regret at all. This person has doubled down in fact. Says Trump is a pig and they hate them...but policy wise they're fine.

Other than that I don't really know. I don't want to either.

@Alice

Who fucked up?

@Alice
I am “deeply dismayed” with vantage of not recalling the we suffered a four year term with the crime clown in recent memory.

Fairly clear patterns of behavior—how could one accept that again?